Nearly 2400 years ago, the philosopher Plato described Atlantis as a powerful state with 10,000 cars, advanced technology, a huge number of elephants and bulls and a number of complex channels. And now, in a new document, the United States group claims to have discovered the ruins of this once prosperous society on what is now the coast of the Atlantic coast of Spain.
But one archaeologist said the ruins probably belong to other ancient cultures, and some scientists questioned by living science could hardly contain excitement when they heard reports of another Atlantis discovery. (People have created dozens of such claims over the years, where they found a legendary company in Antarctica, Bolivia, Turkey, Germany, Malta, the Caribbean and elsewhere.)
"Bless their hearts – if they are right, it would be amazing," said Ken Feder, professor of anthropology at Connecticut State University. "But here's my problem: As an archaeologist, I know I'll always be in the bullshit detective society, and these guys have done almost everything they can do to get my bluff detector out." [Images: Lost Medieval City Discovered Near Angkor Wat]
Seen from space
It is questionable whether Atlantis existed. Plato described the ancient company around 330 when he wrote that he had in fact heard a politician called Critias about the company through the game of a historical phone dating from ancient Egypt. Atlantis has served as a perfect example of a society that has been damaged by material wealth, advanced technology and military strength. Then the gods destroyed Atlantis about 9,000 years ago in a cataclysmic event, Plato wrote.
Century scientists saw Plato's writings on Atlantis as allegories. This perspective, however, changed in 1882, when Amnesty International of Minnesota, Ignatius Donnelly (1831-1901), published the book "Atlantis: Antediluvian World" (Harper & Brothers), which claimed Atlantis was a real place.
Since then, people have been looking for sunken remains of the city. In the last example, Merlin Burrows's employees said two years ago what Atlantis might be in Spain, said Bruce Blackburn, CEO of Merlin Burrows, for living science. A company based in North Yorkshire, England, uses historical records and satellite data to find archaeological sites.
The Blackburn team used data from commercial satellites such as Landsat 5 and Landsat 8 (which also provide data for Google Earth) to find a location in the Spanish Doñana National Park. "It is obvious that this is very meaningful," said Blackburn, who has background in business and finance. "Everybody will have [one of] two opinions. One of them is, "That's great, let's look at it," and one will be "That's a lot of waste." " [The 25 Strangest Sites on Google Earth]
What they found
Scientists have decided to look for a place in Spain after reading two platinum talks about Atlantis, said Blackburn. They looked at another text, but Blackburn did not say which of them. "At this stage, we will not share it at a public forum," Blackburn said, adding that he expects that the paper will be submitted for review "in due time".
The text in these documents contained Plato's descriptions that "an island that was bigger than Libya and Asia together was in front of the mouth you call the Greeks, as you say," Heracles columns. " Such a description led Merlin Burrows on the Spanish coast, near Gibraltar, said Blackburn. There, they discovered several archaeological footprints: the large circles that were probably the foundations of the old towers, the remnants of what they claim to be some of the ruins of Poseidon Temple and the green blue patina coating – all the details Platon included in his conversations, Blackburn said. [10 Biggest Historical Mysteries That Will Probably Never Be Solved]
The team also found remnants of a long sea wall as well as tsunami signs that could prove a catastrophic event that drowned society, said Blackburn.
"The cities of Atlantis, which are very detailed in Plato's writing, are really all there to see," Blackburn said.
Merlin Burrows also took samples of the material – which is probably human concrete, said Blackburn – from the circular foundations and possible ruins of the temple. The company provided these samples to the laboratory for material analysis in Italy, which was dated 10,000 and 12,000 years ago, Blackburn said. However, at the time of the press, Blackburn did not say what lab methods he used at the time of the concrete.
Merlin Burrows and Ingenio Films shot a two-hour document called "Atlantica" about the finding, and Blackburn said he expects companies to make more documents.
"What we really want to do is to get a find," Blackburn said. "We want to make a lot of money out of it, and we want to support the archaeological community with these money."
Merlin Burrows is not the first group to claim Atlantis is in southern Spain. In the Atlantis Rising magazine, National Geographic announced that the network had found evidence that Atlantis was located in the Doñana National Park, as did the 2004 study in Antiquity. And Elena Maria Whishaw, director of the Anglo-Spanish-American Archaeological School, published the book "Atlantis in Andalusia" (Rider & Company) in 1929, which assumed the region was an Atlantis colony.
No wonder Southern southern Spain is a place of interest because there people live there long ago. In a new study in the December issue of the journal Journal of Archeological Science: Reports, researchers have found that people live in today's Doñana National Park about 5,000 years ago, analyzing pollen and microscopic remains in the sediment of the area.
This study showed that the park was over a period of time above sea level, including the Neolithic and Copper Age. Researchers also found that Doñana National Park is sitting on holocene sediments that began to accumulate about 7,000 years ago. "These sediments are sedimentary deposits and layers of fossilized sand that come from thousands of years ago," says Juan José Villarías-Robles, co-researcher and deputy director of the Institute of Linguistics and Anthropology at the Center for Human and Social Sciences in Madrid.
If the dating of 10,000 to 12,000-year-old concrete samples reported by Merlin Burrows is accurate, then these samples could come from pre-holocene formations, Villarías-Robles said. But at least for this place, this date does not correspond to Atlantis-like companies, he said. "However, assuming that the material is artificially produced (which is a great prerequisite), the date leads us from the perspective of culture to history to Paleolithic and post-Palaeolithic," Villarías-Robles said in a live e-mail. "These are the times of hunters and gatherers, rather than the creator and ruler of extensive farming, breeding, maritime policies [like Atlantis]. " [In Images: An Ancient European Hunter Gatherer]
Choose and choose
Meanwhile, Feder (an anthropologist at Connecticut State University) questioned why Merlin Burrows did not submit his results to a reviewed journal, which would allow other scientists to research. "He will immediately contact my detective if someone instead makes announcements through a press release, a press conference, a website or a document," Feder said.
In his book "Encyclopedia of Dubious Archeology: From Atlantis to Walam Olum" (Greenwood, 2010), Feder found 53 specific Atlantis descriptions in platonic conversations, including that the city had bridges connecting the Earth's rings, as well as a central island surrounded by a stone wall side. The descriptions also stated that Poseidon's Temple in Atlanta had a roof made of ivory, silver walls and gold peaks. It is common for amateur scientists to check out some of these boxes, but it is rare for anyone to go through the checklist, Feder said. [How Plausible Are These 20 Imaginary Worlds?]
The area is "a very interesting place," but this fact "quite obviously" is not a novelty, said Mark Adams, author of "Meet Me in Atlantis: My Quest, to find a 2000 year old sunken city" (Dutton, 2015). Archaeologists have known for years that southern Spain was a naval business location in ancient times, Adams said in a vivid way.
"It will do it [this area] Atlantis? I can not say "no," but I do not see any new evidence that would narrow me "towards yes, Adams said after watching a new Atlantica trailer." Just like the Feder, Adams said that some aspects of the locality meet the Atlantis checklist, that the region has experienced disastrous earthquakes and floods, but other aspects are missing.
Adams said he would accept the Atlantis proposal more seriously if it had key details of platonic dialogues, including a unique arrangement of concentric circles (like the bull's eye) of the sea and drought. (These concentric circles are different from the circles of shellfish found by Merlin Burrows in the landscape.) Or maybe archaeologists will find the inscription about Atlantis in the Egyptian temple where according to Plato's script the original description was found, Adams said.
"What a lot of people do is take a part of Plato's story-and there's plenty of information, and that's why it's so fun-it's really like a treasure map-that matches their hypothesis and silently omit parts that do not match their hypothesis , "said Adams. [Rumor or Reality: The Creatures of Cryptozoology]
In fact, it is likely that Plato twisted the elements of the various stories and myths he had heard, and carved this source material into the probably fictitious story of Atlantis, an advanced, yet corrupt society that the gods had destroyed. "[Plato] he did not describe it as a report by the Earth Inspector that people may follow 2400 years later, "said Adams. He used it for a philosophical argument. "
In other words, "People very often claim to have found Atlantis," said a classical archaeologist in England who refused to be named, said living science. "But if they read the text, they would realize it was a legend, not a place."
Originally published on Living science.