Prime Minister Justin Trudeau insists that Jody Wilson-Raybould did not exaggerate over SNC-Lavalin, which is in contradiction with former Prime Minister Jane Philpott's claim that there is a "reason" for moving former Minister of Justice and Attorney General to veteran affairs.
In an explosive conversation with Maclean – her first media interview since she retired from the Liberal Cabinet on March 4 – Philpott said he is "much more" about the SNC-Lavalin affair and Canadians are concerned about the government's "shut down" attempts. story.
Philpott pointed out the testimony of the Commons Justice Committee by Gerry Butts, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's former chief secretary, in which Butts referred to a 6 January meeting she had with Trudeau about the company's efforts to secure a suspended criminal contract (DPA) that would allow it to avoid legal proceedings on bribery charges.
"I think the Canadians might want to know why I would have raised it with the Prime Minister a month before the public knew about it." Why would I think there is a reason why former Minister Wilson-Raybould should not be shuffled? ”T said to Maclean.
Trudeau was asked for this meeting during a press conference in Mississauga, Ont. Thursday morning. He said the discussion was about the appointment of President Philpot into Treasury and the transfer of Wilson-Raybould as Minister of Home Services. The Prime Minister said Philpott asked whether Wilson-Raybould's mood from the Minister of Justice and the role of Attorney General was in relation to the SNC-Lavalin issue.
"I told her no, it wasn't," Trudeau said.
At that moment, Trudeau said, they talked about how Philpott could help Wilson-Raybould in her new role.
"It was a good and positive conversation," he said.
Wilson-Raybould resigns from the Cabinet on February 12, just days after Globe and Mail announced that the PMO and other officials were inappropriately under pressure to reverse the decision of the Canadian Attorney General's prosecution of SNC -Lavalin's charges for bribes for contracts in Libya.
The Montreal global engineering and construction company was looking for DPA that would allow it to avoid criminal proceedings and a possible ten-year ban on bidding for federal contracts in case of conviction.
Despite the tensions in the Liberal Bail over Philpott and Wilson-Raybould, who stayed there soon, Trudeau said today that both MEPs were in favor of a liberal agenda.
CBC News announced on Wednesday that Philpott is facing tough questions during a meeting in Ontario. At the beginning of the meeting she approached a group that lasted 30 minutes longer than planned, and people in the room described it as "rough" and "unpleasant".
Philpott – widely considered to be one of the most capable and respected ministers in the Trudeau Government – resigned from the Liberal Cabinet on March 4, stating in a public statement that she lost confidence in how the Trudeau government was handling the SNC-Lavalin affair.
Today, pressure was pushed publicly at Philpott to clear the air.
John McKay, a long-standing liberal MEP, said that "trust is trust" and recognized that MEPs are beginning to see that SNC-Lavalin has "political implications".
"It's one thing that needs to be taken from opposition or from circumstances other than cabinet or cabinet. Another thing is to take political hits from your own people," he said.
Judy Sgro, another veteran torpedo liberal deputy, said that Philpott could simply use her parliamentary privilege to say what he wanted in the Chamber of Deputies instead of "allusions".
"She is well aware of how we all feel. We do not want to damage the party, we have a lot of work to do," she said.
"They are under no restrictions. Now they can go to the Chamber of Deputies and say parliamentary privilege and say anything they want."
An interview with Maclean was published in the midst of a parliamentary turmoil over the movement of liberals, which was to shut down the SNC-Lavalin probe for the Commons Committee's.
Philpott said he believes that Canadians need answers to maintain confidence in the judicial system.
"I feel that Canadians would like to know the whole story," said journalist Paul Wells. "I believe we actually owe Canadians as politicians to make sure they are right. They must have confidence in the fundamental constitutional principle of the independence of the judiciary."
The Chamber of Deputies is currently involved in the marathon vote – a parliamentary tactic sent by conservatives to protest liberals who have closed committees' investigations before former prosecutor Jody Wilson-Raybould could be called off to testify a second time.
During an interview with Maclean, Phlipott said Wilson-Raybould may not resign as Minister of Justice and Attorney General, as she resisted inappropriate pressure to intervene in the SNC-Lavalin prosecution because she had a finger on the dike. Perhaps she felt that her resignation might jeopardize the independence of the judicial system, said Philpott.
"Another answer is that from the point of view of someone under pressure and perhaps being harassed, it's incredibly difficult – if you talk to people who are in any capacity harassed, maintain relationships, and find the right time to talk about it that you are treated like that, ”Philpott said.
"So you know, I think if you look at examples of other types of bullying or harassment, it's not necessarily as easy as people think they're talking to those who cause you."
Conservative MP Michelle Rempel said Maclean's interview points to a "culture of intimidation" within Trudeau's government. She accused Trudeau of imposing a "gag order" on Philpot and Wilson-Raybould to try to cover the story of SNC-Lavalin.
"How could we seriously make Parliament Hill a place where women could work if they were stories that Canadians see when no measures are taken?" she asked.
Trudeau called a fake feminist & # 39;
Conservatives have labeled Trudeau a "false feminist" for not allowing former ministers to tell their story fully. Trudeau renounced the Cabinet's trust and privilege-client privilege for Wilson-Raybould, but only for her time as Attorney General and Minister of Justice.
This waiver does not apply to the period after being confused with veteran affairs and its subsequent withdrawal from the Cabinet.
Rempel said that blocking the two women in full expression shows that there is a gender issue in play.
"Any Canadian woman, whatever the strip, should be outraged by what's going on with these women," she said. "It's disgusting."
The NDP leader Jagmeet Singh said Philpott's interview is a proof of a "serious problem" that deserves a full public broadcast.
"All this really points to the fact that Canadians really need to be right," he said. "More than ever we need a public question. There's so much more we don't know."